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Antenna Dinamica A.D. 3 elements special with 6 meter kit
The never ending story and the end of a nightmare

 

The antenna arrived to my house in September 2016 after 14 months from the order with down payment of 1,000 € (thousand euros) given to the former management. The new management (RO.EL.TVE Elettronica) delivered the antenna after 60 days with a further (acceptable) 30 days delay due to August summer closure.

 

Here after are reported the reasons that leaded me to finally remove the antenna after only one year from its installation. It is also highlighted that the product overall quality (HW, SW and support) is well away from the expectations and that it is not worth the paid price of 3,000 € (3 thousands euros) VAT excluded.

 

From the enclosed list the following materials were missing:

 

Boom mechanical parts

  1. 2 collars of the 6 meters element;

 

Elements mechanical parts

  1. 12 heat shrink 10 cm tubing (personally supplied);

  2. 2 caps to close the 30 meters driver (personally supplied);

  3. 6 meters passive element;

  4. mounting instructions for the 6 meters kit;

 

Motor units parts

  1. 2 RG142 cables (personally supplied with RG213);

  2. switch counter-plate (personally supplied);

  3. 2 switch counter plate bolts M6x80 (personally supplied with M5x90);

  4. 2 washers M6 (personally supplied with 2 washers and grover M5)

 

AD-CONTROLLER parts

  1. 24VDC power supply (personally supplied);

 

The following flaws were also noticed:

Miscellanea

  1. all through bolts should have their washers (shouldn’t they?) (personally supplied);

  2. the diameter of the aluminum pipes sleeves (45mm) is less than those of the original fiberglass pipes (50mm), so that the rubber couplings don’t perform correctly their function. This is not acceptable for a junction with a pipe length of 5.5 meters (personally supplied);

  3. in the product documentation is not explicitly said that the AD controller power cable is not provided;

  4. there should be an enclosure for the USB-CAN converter card (personally supplied);

 

Assembly

  1. the 4 central bolts used to fix the boom plate should be mounted with the head looking to the bigger boom plate, differently than shown at page 9 of the manual to allow the installation of boom collars.;

  2. the tie-beam plates holes have a center to center distance 3 mm shorter than their corresponding holes on the motor plates (personally supplied);

  3. the 4 auto threading screws are too small to sustain the AD controller box (personally supplied with 4 bolts M5x15, 4 washers and 4 grovers M5);

  4. the boom holes (10,3mm) should be closed with caps to avoid intrusion of insects into the boom (personally supplied);

  5. the power cable opening of the AD Controller box is too small, should be at least Ф 8mm to allow the insertion of a adequately dimensioned cable (considering the voltage drop along the cable due to its length and motor current);

  6. the bolts to fix the AD Controller box to the mast are too short for a 1” ½ mast (personally supplied);

  7. the hexagonal head of bolts used to fix the tie-beam plate to the motor plate of the reflector element should be flattened to allow the correct placement of the collar sleeves.;

  8. all the documents provided on the CD should be updated.

 

After having finally mounted the antenna on the roof I faced the software installation on PC. It took a week to obtain the software activation (see details lather). Here are some of the spotted problems:

  1. poor user interface in some fundamental functions of the application;

  2. graphics not corresponding to the real antenna status;

  3. some shown functions are not usable because the corresponding hardware piece is not available (i.e. SWR, direct and reflected power);

  4. some operational bugs;

  5. no possibility to customize the graphical settings;

  6. no possibility to hold the application window in foreground;

  7. lack and not exhaustive support website;

  8. no possibility to update and no updates available for the PC software and the AD Controller firmware;

  9. no forum for FAQs, problems (hardware e software) and problem solving.ecedente).

 

Below I expose the problems:

Irreversible error in application. Unfortunately, and fortunately, it was seldom, but resolutely, it was in any case annoying. Resolved

Another frequent error. Resolved

All the above concerns have been formally reported October 2016 to the actual AD Antenna organization and marketing owner alias ik2ckr.

Evaluation

 

Scoring 1 to 10

 

Delivery time

5/10 (missing parts and rework activities have delayed the installation of additional 30 days)

 

Mechanical

6/10 overall

3/10 mechanical pre-assembly

 

Electrical and software

Electrical: 3/10

Software and AD controller card: 2/10

 

Actual organization management support

 

availability and helpfulness 2/10

answers and explanations 1/10;

hardware problem solving = 1/10.

software problem solving 0/10.

Further considerations and narrative

 

As said before some missing parts and rework activities have considerably lengthened the antenna assembly time and deferred its activation. Anyway the antenna mechanical is quite good but, alas, some small and trivial flaws could have been fixed at the factory. I worked hard in fixing those “little” flaws but not everyone can do it at home without the proper tools and material.

 

Also the assembly manual is not that clear, not exhaustive and illustrations are obsolete.

 

Not of less importance was the process of obtaining the license for the full functionality of the SW. The request was sent via E-mail to the specified address but the mailbox was closes (now I know the reasons) and the auto answer redirected me to another address. In few words after six days I was not able to receive any information from the actual organization on how to get the activation key. Somebody else has informally helped me (tnx Silvano - i2ysb e Claudio - ik0zio).

 

Furthermore on top on the above, after days of testing and verifications, constrained by the continuous deficiencies of the software, being missing any possibility, ability and willingness by the AD organization to solve said deficiencies, I decided to build a new software using a stand alone controller based on a MicroMedia board (mikroe.com) with color and touch screen etc.(I had to “sniff” the communication protocol between the PC and the AD controller). 

This is an hobby, so the time to spend is limited but after a couple of weeks the first wails came out and after a further period of intensive tests it was completely operative. I can assure, , while I’m writing, that it works perfectly and, listening to those that saw it in operation, it is very much superior to the system supplied by the AD antenna organization, deaf in listening to customer problems and unwilling to compare itself with the reality and to improve its product (he said “what you have done is just a little thing to make the stepper motors turning, anybody can do it in half a day”).

On the contrary it doesn’t seem true to me that the software provided by AD org doesn’t offer different or better functions than my little stand alone baby,and, better, supposing that my baby is a “toy to make stepper motors turning”, then I ask myself – why many owners and/or possible buyers of the AD antenna are waiting for a new stand alone controller many times announced and continuously deferred?  If one can build a software to make stepper motors turning in half a day why is there (and what are the reasons of) this eternal waiting time? – After all, differently from me, they have already a code base from which to start, or not ? bah, no comment.

 

By the way, a stand alone controller preferably wireless, maybe an app for tablet/phones, could be much more effective than the actual PC SW provided by AD org but would eventually raise the price of the product and consequently reduce the quality/price ratio just promoting analog products on the market.

 

But the best is yet to come !!!

 

Alleluja. The storm of the last June 5th 2017 caused what I never wanted to happen. One of the stepper motor driver died causing a short circuit on the 24 VDC power supply. I was lucky because my power supply is protected against current overloads and cuts the power when the current limit is reached otherwise the damage would have been much greater. In fact during the inspection I discovered that the only fuse in the AD Controller circuit is rated at a current of 10 Amperes, too much for the thin pcb traces going to the supply connectors of the motors. ​

 

I reiterate here my opinion: mechanical could be defined of a good quality but the rest if really a SHAME! In any case I repaired the driver card and ordered additional spare driver cards from a different provider because no answers were received to my phone calls to the AD org.

 

June 29th, 2017: the strong storm raging in the area caused the 24VDC power to go to protection again. Without doubts another motor driver is dead with the hope that no other components are involved. Cannot go up to roof with this whether.

 

July 1st, 2017 effectively and luckily it was as supposed. Another stepper motor driver was broken. After a deeply inspection I noticed that the upper size of the AD controller box was wet, due to the condensation caused by the sudden temperature drop, probably dripping on the underlying driver card. Then it was mandatory to put in place the correct remedies, i.e. replacement of the box with a brand new one with thermal insulation inside against the condensation; I added also a circuit where each motor is independently powered through a dedicated 2A fuse as suggested by the Toshiba Stepper motor driver datasheet in order to remove the stepper motor power from the pcb traces of the AD Controller.

 

Crossing the fingers, on 24th of July 2017 the remedies put in place seem to resist and survive to the low-pressure in action and to the previous storms of the 13th and 21st of July, when the temperature dropped below 19 degrees Celsius. No condensation was visible in the box ... but 

 

Friday 11th of August 2017, a beautiful, clear and warm summer day the last stepper motor driver gave up apparently without reasons, replaced with a new one ... mumble ... mumble ... mumble,  see that Michail was fully in the truth when he wrote:

 

Michail Vassiliadis

 

  1. Ordered May and came after 7 months in open boxes without protection;

  2. Antenna quality is bad;

  3. Stepper controller is dying one after another;

  4. Main element is not making good contact;

  5. Motor housing are aquariums;

  6. Communication with factory is a joke;

  7. AD is not a company. It is a backyard workshop.

BEWARE

 

One could say that’s enough, but here comes the antenna element M3, used as director for 6,10,12, 15, 17, 20 e 30 meters and as driver for 40 meters which doesn’t do its job anymore. The motor turns, the current load shown by the power supply is correct. Probably the inner strip doesn’t come out or it is a bad contact between the sleight and the strip. This was revealed on 18th of August when, operating the 40 meters band, the SWR went south and the other bands required the tune of the elements length to come back to an acceptable SWR level. All the clues were pointing at the M3 element as the culprit.

 

Now I’m worn out, dead tired and bothered by this steady steam of problems. When I’ll be better and I will have a piece of time and willingness I’ll go up again on the roof and I will dismount the M3 element and its motor box and check and report about it. My situation now is very similar to that described by  Michail, point 5 is still to be verified, but, if so,  then the Michail story will carbon copy match my story  “.. beware .. beware .. beware! “

 

4th of September, 2017: finally a slot of time to check the M3 problem. BINGO! The missing Michail point 5 is now verified and confirmed. I abstain from putting additional comments here in order to avoid the improper use of non diplomatic words and/or direct insults. After all these ordeals, where the moral is gone under my shoulders, I simply include these self explaining pictures. ​

Water into the motor box

Lower coil recall spring unsuitably loaded

At this point, being a one year old AD (www.antennadinamica.com/) owner, I can conclude w/o any doubt by confirming entirely the  Michail Vassiliadis   review and adding my whispered opinion in capital letters, despite of diplomacy:

 

THIS A.D. SUCKS

 

Not only the antenna, but all the AD organization (better,  disorganization) which builds, markets and sells such a product.

 

Is it a backyard workshop? WORST, it's just a manure producer!

 

So said, before to finish, pay attention to these last gems:

  1. with the storm that raged in this area recently, the director fiberglass pipe (trombone) got broken in proximity of the upper pipe junction. The thickness of the fiberglass, so praised by the AD org  (medium thickness of 2 mm and have reinforcements near the junctions), was not enough to withstand the wind force;

  2. the adherence of the sleights with their corresponding strips stays uncertain on all the 3 elements causing the SWR to go up and down like a seesaw.

 

At this point I came to the decision to definitely remove the antenna from the roof, thus making again my trellis ASEPTIC from such a trash.

These fiberglass pipe are the TOP. They have a thickness of 2 mm and bla ... bla ... bla ... bla ... bla

Before burying the antenna materials in the garage I noticed an additional defect on the supporting arm of the central element and a sort of bleaching on all the fiberglass pipes with the exposition of the underlying glass fibers.

Conclusion:

 

All the things reported and shown above are really faced facts and ALL are further documentable. The aim is not to influence the readers, it is rather the expression of my evaluation of a product and of an organization which shown itself lacking on the matter, untrustworthy and absolutely deaf to proposals and/or suggestions on how to solve the problems.

 

One other thorny point is the maintainability and upgradeability of the PC Software and of the AD Controller and Canbus Firmware (no provisions are in place on this matter today).

 

For those of you willing to realize a dream I suggest to look to different products or to stay with the “good aluminum” which never betrays,

Being warned in time can save us for one half, the other half depends on our choice to follow or to discard the received advices.

 

 73 e GD DX.

ik2jyw-pier

 

P.S. It is really true that one can’t judge a book from its cover (in Italy we say that the dress doesn’t make a monk) but, if you like, you can go to the links below and you’ll have the opportunity to evaluate, think again and compare and to finally come to a decision, but before to proceed with a rash purchase and see your efforts/dreams failing miserably like mines, remember what you have read and, above all,  ....BEWARE! ​

http://www.steppir.com/

https://www.ultrabeam.it/index_it.html

http://www.antennadinamica.com/

 

https://www.facebook.com/IK2JYWs-amatour-radio-page-1400097420301644/

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